Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/01/2004 09:05 AM Senate FIN

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     SENATE BILL NO. 299                                                                                                        
     "An Act relating to a charge for a bad check."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde,   Chair  of  the  Senate  Labor  &  Commerce   (L&C)                                                            
Committee, explained that  this legislation is an attempt to address                                                            
the issue of bounced  checks. He noted that current  law specifies a                                                            
business could  collect up to a $25 penalty fee in  the case where a                                                            
person writes bad checks  to a business. Continuing, he shared that,                                                            
on occasion,  a business has been  challenged to provide  proof that                                                            
its  penalty   fee  is  warranted,   and  he  commented   that  this                                                            
legislation  has  been drafted  to address  this  situation  because                                                            
bring required to honor  the documentation request incurs additional                                                            
expenses  to  a  business.   Therefore,  he  summarized   that  this                                                            
legislation  would increase  the bad check  penalty from $25  to $30                                                            
and   would  remove   the   legal  requirement   to   provide   cost                                                            
documentation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green noted that  current statute limits the penalty fee to                                                            
$25, and  she confirmed that  the Court has  overturned some  of the                                                            
penalty fees.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JANE ALBERTS,  Staff to Senator Con  Bunde and Aide, Senate  Labor &                                                            
Commerce Committee,  noted that this bill would establish  a set fee                                                            
for "a  bounced or  insufficient"  funds check.  She noted that  the                                                            
bill would  also make the collection  process "less cumbersome"  for                                                            
businesses.  She mentioned that "15  percent of bad checks  that are                                                            
written  are by innocent  customers  who are unaware  of their  fund                                                            
level at the time,"  and who make good on their checks  within a day                                                            
or two  of notification.  She pointed  out that  "42 percent  of bad                                                            
check writers  are chronic  bad check  writers who  often take  more                                                            
than  90 days"  to  rectify  the problem.  She  also noted  that  45                                                            
percent  of all bad  checks written  are unrecoverable.  She  stated                                                            
that this legislation would  be "a clear deterrent" to writing a bad                                                            
check. In addition,  she noted that without relief,  some businesses                                                            
might  decline to  accept checks  as a form  of payment  due to  the                                                            
"hassle" of the  collection process. She noted that  the legislation                                                            
"is widely  supported" by  Alaskan businesses,  as witnessed  by the                                                            
number of  letters received  regarding it.  She also noted  that the                                                            
fee for bad checks has not been increased in 18 years.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green pointed  out that a  $30 bad check  fee would  align                                                            
with the  fees charged  in other  states, according  to the  handout                                                            
titled  "Service  Fees for  Returned  Checks"  [copy on  file]  that                                                            
Senator Bunde has provided.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  whether  there  is  any  opposition  to  this                                                            
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Alberts responded that no one has voiced opposition.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JILL JAECKEL,  Legal Assistant, Spenard  Builders Supply,  testified                                                            
via teleconference  from an offnet site in support  of the bill. She                                                            
declared that businesses  suffer losses "when the profit from a cash                                                            
sale is dramatically  reduced" because of a 90-day  delay in payment                                                            
or is uncollectible as a result of a bad check.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked Spenard  Builders Supply's policy when a person                                                            
refuses to make restitution on a bad check.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Jaeckel  shared  that  Spenard  Builders   Supply  seeks  civil                                                            
penalties when  attempting to collect  a large check and  resorts to                                                            
filing  small claims  cases. She  continued that  were the  business                                                            
"lucky  enough to be  able to locate"  the individual,  they  seek a                                                            
court  judgment  and collect  from  the  offender's  Permanent  Fund                                                            
Dividend  (PFD) check if  one is applied for.  She stated that  this                                                            
process "is trickier" than  when dealing with someone who has filled                                                            
out a credit application because less information is available.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  asked whether  in  current  law, there  is  "intent                                                            
language"  which  might be  detrimental  to the  collection  process                                                            
because  the  intent  language  might specify  that  proof  must  be                                                            
provided to show that the offender knowingly wrote a bad check.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms Jaeckel responded that  this might be applicable to a fraud issue                                                            
in which there is criminal intent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  asked whether, in a fraud case, a  specific monetary                                                            
level must be involved.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Jaeckel responded  that when Spenard Builders  Supply has had to                                                            
deal  with a situation  in  which a  large check  "has been  clearly                                                            
written fraudulently  and clearly  are a criminal case,"  its chance                                                            
of collection  "are so low," that  "if there is criminal  action and                                                            
if there is restitution  that is awarded through those court cases,"                                                            
the business might  collect "ten cents on a dollar  eight years from                                                            
now."                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asserted that part of the difficulty  in collecting                                                            
on bad checks  lies with the fact that financial institutions  limit                                                            
the number  of times a bad check could  be presented for  processing                                                            
to two times. He asked whether this is an issue.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Jaeckel  affirmed that a bad check  could only be presented  for                                                            
payment twice. However,  she noted that the check could be presented                                                            
at the originating  bank and a cashier's  check for the amount  owed                                                            
could be  gotten were funds  in the account.  She expressed  however                                                            
that this increases the collection process expense.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked whether  addressing the number of times that a                                                            
financial institution would  be required to process a check could be                                                            
considered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Jaeckel  replied that this would  result in additional  expenses                                                            
as financial institutes  charge up to $30 each time  an insufficient                                                            
fund check is submitted and the funds are not there.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  declared  that  this  expense  might  serve  as  a                                                            
disincentive to individuals to write bad checks.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Jaeckel responded that  this does not seem to be "a big concern"                                                            
to individuals  who knowingly write bad checks.  She  stated that it                                                            
would  serve to  get  "them further  in  the hole,  and  in a  worse                                                            
situation"  and might make  it more difficult  for a business  to be                                                            
able to collect. She opined  that while it would not deter those who                                                            
knowingly  write bad  checks, it  might deter  those 15-percent  who                                                            
unknowingly  write a bad  check. However, she  noted that those  are                                                            
the ones whose  checks normally clear the bank the  second time they                                                            
are submitted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked who  is responsible for paying the insufficient                                                            
funds bank fee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Jaeckel  clarified  that both  the  bad  check writer  and  the                                                            
business submitting the  check are charged a fee, although she noted                                                            
that the person  responsible for writing the bad check  is charged a                                                            
higher fee than the business.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  summarized therefore that both the  business and the                                                            
person writing the bad check would be penalized.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Jaeckel concurred.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT  KING,  Representative,  Cornerstone   Credit  Services,  LLC,                                                            
testified via  teleconference from an offnet site  in support of the                                                            
bill. He stressed  that his company's  interest in this legislation                                                             
was prompted by  a recent District Court decision  in Fairbanks that                                                            
specified  that  businesses  would  be  required  to  "document  and                                                            
account for  all costs incurred"  in their  efforts to collect  on a                                                            
bad check.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. King continued  that the current  $25 fee assists businesses  in                                                            
covering internal  expenses associated  with the collection  process                                                            
including  such things  as merchants'  bank fees,  personnel  costs,                                                            
letters, telephone  calls, accounting  documentation, and  fees paid                                                            
to  collection  agencies.  He  stated  that   the District   Court's                                                            
decision  would  require  a  business  to  document  each  of  these                                                            
activities  and  that  only  the  activities   documented  could  be                                                            
included  in the  collection assessment  fee.  He communicated  that                                                            
important changes  in the bill include the elimination  of the words                                                            
"for costs  incurred" from State statutes  so that a business  would                                                            
not be  required to document  the costs incurred  from collecting  a                                                            
bad check  and the increase  of the maximum  fee from $25 to  $30 to                                                            
bring it more  in line with other states' fees and  to adjust for at                                                            
least 18 years of unadjusted inflation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. King stated that his  company, which provides check verification                                                            
and  check   collection   services,  represents   more  than   2,000                                                            
businesses  in the State  who would  be negatively  affected  by the                                                            
District Court decision.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Mr. King  spoke of  the volume of  business letters  that have  been                                                            
submitted  in  support  of  this  legislation,   and  he  urged  the                                                            
Committee to support the bill.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PAM LABOLLE, President,  Alaska State Chamber of Commerce, testified                                                            
to the Chamber's support  of the bill. She shared that the Chamber's                                                            
members  in   their  collection  efforts   have  experienced   costs                                                            
exceeding the currently  allowed $25, and even the proposed $30 fee.                                                            
She reiterated  that the  District Court's  ruling has necessitated                                                             
the proposed changes in  this law, as it would have "great" negative                                                            
impact on businesses.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  asked whether the  Chamber's members have  any other                                                            
bad check issues that should be addressed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LaBolle responded in the negative.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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Ms. Alberts informed that  currently bank fees charged to businesses                                                            
for processing bad checks range from $2 to $25 dollars.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked for that information to be provided to                                                                     
Members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde moved to report the bill from Committee with                                                                      
individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal note.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, SB 299 was REPORTED from Committee with                                                               
zero fiscal note #1 from the Department of Administration.                                                                      

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